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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Funny and endearing, but strangely unpleasant&#8217; by Iva Gruić (Jutarnji list, daily newspaper) by Alen Marekovic</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alen Marekovic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mrs Gruic,
Well, I&#039;m writing you, not to criticize your critic&#039;s review but to bring
you closer to some facts about dogs, in particular the dog breed Border
Collie, whose &quot;member&quot; is my (or to be more precise, my wife&#039;s) dog Cap.
First of all, I would like to thank you for all kind words you had about
Cap.
Border Collie is a breed developed in the UK, cause of the need of local
sheep farmers and shepherds for a dog that could help them in their work.
They needed a sheep dog that could learn quickly, that could respond easily
to his &quot;master&#039;s&quot; commands, that is capable of working relentlessly all day
and that is always ready for action. Between the end of the 19th and the
beginning of the 20th century they got such a dog. Centuries of selection
resulted in a dog with exceptional working predispositions and really high
working intelligence as well as the possibility of concentrating. Although
today Border Collies are still &quot;number one&quot; shepherd&#039;s helpers and still
mostly used as herding dogs, many Border Collies also replaced their
shepherding tasks with some dogsport activities (such as agility, frisbee,
competitive obedience etc.) or humane jobs like search and rescue dogs.
Honestly, Border Collies live for their work. They live for something that
will occupy their athletic body, but also their fascinating mind.
From my long-term experience with this dog breed I responsibly affirm that a
real Border Collie will be pretty &quot;unhappy&quot; and &quot;frustrated&quot; if he&#039;s left on
his own without anything to do (I used the word &quot;real&quot;, because there are
some Border Collies that aren&#039;t real examples of their breed no more).
Not to give a Border Collie a chance to work is the same as having a
greyhound and not allowing him to run. Because of that, as a breeder, I
thoroughly choose potential new owners of my pups. I avoid all those that
want Border Collies as &quot;plain&quot; pet dogs. Because they just aren&#039;t that.
I wrote all of this so that I could explain that your comparison of Cap and
circus animals isn&#039;t really proper, because e.g. it isn&#039;t natural for a lion
to obey humans (and this really is abusing animals), while dogs are bred and
selectioned for thousands of years just because of that. The idea of a dog
is almost inseparable from that of a human.
I don&#039;t know, maybe you were fooled by Cap&#039;s facial expressions - focused,
with his eyes wide open - but he looked and is looking like that because he
is really excited about the part of the play where he runs in circles and
pulls down the flag. He&#039;s anticipating that part because it is his favourite
part:-). OK, maybe the frontal light, in one small part, caused his widely
opened eyes and that is the only part of the play that I noticed Cap doesn&#039;t
like. That&#039;s why the intensity of this frontal light, on my suggestion, was
diminished to a reasonable level. And as far as noise is concerned - Cap
doesn&#039;t give a damn about it :-), because he is really used to it. As a
rescue dog - and Cap is, beside an Agility World Champion, also a Search and
Rescue World Champion - for him it&#039;s normal to work under the noise a
helicopter causes and all search and rescue exams are tested under noise of
gunshots as well.
You probably noticed that Cap behaves pretty much the same on the stage as
well off the stage, like all my Border Collies, when he&#039;s ready for some
action.
I apologize for bothering you. Please don&#039;t think of this email as something
negative.
Sincerely,
Alen Marekovic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mrs Gruic,<br />
Well, I&#8217;m writing you, not to criticize your critic&#8217;s review but to bring<br />
you closer to some facts about dogs, in particular the dog breed Border<br />
Collie, whose &#8220;member&#8221; is my (or to be more precise, my wife&#8217;s) dog Cap.<br />
First of all, I would like to thank you for all kind words you had about<br />
Cap.<br />
Border Collie is a breed developed in the UK, cause of the need of local<br />
sheep farmers and shepherds for a dog that could help them in their work.<br />
They needed a sheep dog that could learn quickly, that could respond easily<br />
to his &#8220;master&#8217;s&#8221; commands, that is capable of working relentlessly all day<br />
and that is always ready for action. Between the end of the 19th and the<br />
beginning of the 20th century they got such a dog. Centuries of selection<br />
resulted in a dog with exceptional working predispositions and really high<br />
working intelligence as well as the possibility of concentrating. Although<br />
today Border Collies are still &#8220;number one&#8221; shepherd&#8217;s helpers and still<br />
mostly used as herding dogs, many Border Collies also replaced their<br />
shepherding tasks with some dogsport activities (such as agility, frisbee,<br />
competitive obedience etc.) or humane jobs like search and rescue dogs.<br />
Honestly, Border Collies live for their work. They live for something that<br />
will occupy their athletic body, but also their fascinating mind.<br />
From my long-term experience with this dog breed I responsibly affirm that a<br />
real Border Collie will be pretty &#8220;unhappy&#8221; and &#8220;frustrated&#8221; if he&#8217;s left on<br />
his own without anything to do (I used the word &#8220;real&#8221;, because there are<br />
some Border Collies that aren&#8217;t real examples of their breed no more).<br />
Not to give a Border Collie a chance to work is the same as having a<br />
greyhound and not allowing him to run. Because of that, as a breeder, I<br />
thoroughly choose potential new owners of my pups. I avoid all those that<br />
want Border Collies as &#8220;plain&#8221; pet dogs. Because they just aren&#8217;t that.<br />
I wrote all of this so that I could explain that your comparison of Cap and<br />
circus animals isn&#8217;t really proper, because e.g. it isn&#8217;t natural for a lion<br />
to obey humans (and this really is abusing animals), while dogs are bred and<br />
selectioned for thousands of years just because of that. The idea of a dog<br />
is almost inseparable from that of a human.<br />
I don&#8217;t know, maybe you were fooled by Cap&#8217;s facial expressions &#8211; focused,<br />
with his eyes wide open &#8211; but he looked and is looking like that because he<br />
is really excited about the part of the play where he runs in circles and<br />
pulls down the flag. He&#8217;s anticipating that part because it is his favourite<br />
part:-). OK, maybe the frontal light, in one small part, caused his widely<br />
opened eyes and that is the only part of the play that I noticed Cap doesn&#8217;t<br />
like. That&#8217;s why the intensity of this frontal light, on my suggestion, was<br />
diminished to a reasonable level. And as far as noise is concerned &#8211; Cap<br />
doesn&#8217;t give a damn about it <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> , because he is really used to it. As a<br />
rescue dog &#8211; and Cap is, beside an Agility World Champion, also a Search and<br />
Rescue World Champion &#8211; for him it&#8217;s normal to work under the noise a<br />
helicopter causes and all search and rescue exams are tested under noise of<br />
gunshots as well.<br />
You probably noticed that Cap behaves pretty much the same on the stage as<br />
well off the stage, like all my Border Collies, when he&#8217;s ready for some<br />
action.<br />
I apologize for bothering you. Please don&#8217;t think of this email as something<br />
negative.<br />
Sincerely,<br />
Alen Marekovic</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8216;Dogs take centre stage for feel-good Croatian play&#8217; by Lajla Veselica (AFP) by montazstroj</title>
		<link>http://montazstroj.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/timbuktu-afp-links/#comment-46</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2008 17:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on timbuktu vs. amerika by lucas</title>
		<link>http://montazstroj.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/ame-ri-ka/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>lucas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi borut,

currently i am reading timbuktu - nice book. willy just died, i hope to finish second half of it this evening.
i would like to make a remark on your presentation lately during
chips and dips. for you the book represents american consumer society and you reflect that by showing amongst others the american flag.
so far i don&#039;t experience that part of american society that much.
america can have an as mystical status as timbuktu in a sense: the land of many possibilities and many broken dreams. also in other books auster clearly talks about american society without making it into a caricature or stereotype.

i think it would be good for the play to keep stereotypes on american society out. clearly tarkovsky shows the run down atmosphere of soviet urban environments, but he does not stereotype them either, more using them for their eerynes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi borut,</p>
<p>currently i am reading timbuktu &#8211; nice book. willy just died, i hope to finish second half of it this evening.<br />
i would like to make a remark on your presentation lately during<br />
chips and dips. for you the book represents american consumer society and you reflect that by showing amongst others the american flag.<br />
so far i don&#8217;t experience that part of american society that much.<br />
america can have an as mystical status as timbuktu in a sense: the land of many possibilities and many broken dreams. also in other books auster clearly talks about american society without making it into a caricature or stereotype.</p>
<p>i think it would be good for the play to keep stereotypes on american society out. clearly tarkovsky shows the run down atmosphere of soviet urban environments, but he does not stereotype them either, more using them for their eerynes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on timbuktu vs. amerika by jasna</title>
		<link>http://montazstroj.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/ame-ri-ka/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>jasna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:18:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dinka, you very well know we don&#039;t want to parade with too much America... no1 wants that:) that is the catch, I think -  in being careful with the hows and the whats of entwining America into timbuktu, to put it that way... not only on stage, but in the text as well...
I think it&#039;s interesting to note the parallel that lies between the nature of America in this project and the nature of America as it is perceived in the &quot;real world&quot; (don&#039;t crucify me over this one, I mean it in regard to culture and capital), in both cases it is one of an intruder that slowly creeps in and then takes over... the seized one just has to know when to say &quot;enough&quot;, if (s)he can do that...
I think playing with this evil uncle stereotype could be much fun...
and as far as the danger of mistaken identification (interpretation) argument is concerned, if you ask me, that can only be a plus... but that&#039;s maybe just a phase I&#039;m going tru...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dinka, you very well know we don&#8217;t want to parade with too much America&#8230; no1 wants that:) that is the catch, I think &#8211;  in being careful with the hows and the whats of entwining America into timbuktu, to put it that way&#8230; not only on stage, but in the text as well&#8230;<br />
I think it&#8217;s interesting to note the parallel that lies between the nature of America in this project and the nature of America as it is perceived in the &#8220;real world&#8221; (don&#8217;t crucify me over this one, I mean it in regard to culture and capital), in both cases it is one of an intruder that slowly creeps in and then takes over&#8230; the seized one just has to know when to say &#8220;enough&#8221;, if (s)he can do that&#8230;<br />
I think playing with this evil uncle stereotype could be much fun&#8230;<br />
and as far as the danger of mistaken identification (interpretation) argument is concerned, if you ask me, that can only be a plus&#8230; but that&#8217;s maybe just a phase I&#8217;m going tru&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on timbuktu vs. amerika by dinka</title>
		<link>http://montazstroj.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/ame-ri-ka/#comment-40</link>
		<dc:creator>dinka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 17:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although it is an important layer in Paul Auster&#039;s story, parading with too much America is probably the dead end. As producer and public relations of Timbuktu project, I think it’s important not to forget who the primary target group of the performance is: children and youth. I believe that in this sense the title America may be confusing and may easily miss the point. Certainly this is not exemplary title because it misleads what this story is at its core. Accordingly, if we consider previous projects of Montazstroj and its leftist reputation, the danger of mistaken identification (interpretation) may be even bigger. Is it a hardcore anti-imperialistic political theater piece?  In my view, if the project featuring dogs and homeless is titled “America” - the first thing that may come to one’s mind is some kind of radical and politically engaged theater. On the other side, the title Timbuktu sounds mysterious and interesting as well. It is rather clear title for the people who’re familiar with Auster’s writings and in my view – it’s definitely more attractive for potential sponsors who would support the project.  The title “Timbuktu” resounds esoteric enough and has somewhat fairytale like quality. And I believe that the powerful story will do the rest.
Regarding the American flag as part of set design, it’s not difficult to see why to use an American flag; as it connects so naturally with one important layer of meaning in Paul Auster&#039;s story. What makes Timbuktu story additionally forceful and interesting is a sophisticated critique of the nuances of (proper) American way of life. Although main character turns against this specific sensibility (pragmatic, capitalist, rationalistic society etc.) he is still very much defined by it. So, why not emphasize American context? The use of American flag on stage in ex-socialist countries probably is different than in another context because it has became an omnipresent icon (like the word America) that now it can symbolize almost everything and nothing. But my problem of setting a gigantic American flag lies in a fact  that  it&#039;s visually too dominant and aggressive element on an empty stage (where almost nothing happens, except movements of one dog),  thus it will unnecessarily diminish the powerful impact of sliding cage (which as metaphor speaks universally for itself). But also, setting a big ready-made American flag might have too aggressive political connotations (if we enumerate other “anti-American elements”), and can eventually lead to over-simplistic interpretations of what is at its core a truly poetic story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although it is an important layer in Paul Auster&#8217;s story, parading with too much America is probably the dead end. As producer and public relations of Timbuktu project, I think it’s important not to forget who the primary target group of the performance is: children and youth. I believe that in this sense the title America may be confusing and may easily miss the point. Certainly this is not exemplary title because it misleads what this story is at its core. Accordingly, if we consider previous projects of Montazstroj and its leftist reputation, the danger of mistaken identification (interpretation) may be even bigger. Is it a hardcore anti-imperialistic political theater piece?  In my view, if the project featuring dogs and homeless is titled “America” &#8211; the first thing that may come to one’s mind is some kind of radical and politically engaged theater. On the other side, the title Timbuktu sounds mysterious and interesting as well. It is rather clear title for the people who’re familiar with Auster’s writings and in my view – it’s definitely more attractive for potential sponsors who would support the project.  The title “Timbuktu” resounds esoteric enough and has somewhat fairytale like quality. And I believe that the powerful story will do the rest.<br />
Regarding the American flag as part of set design, it’s not difficult to see why to use an American flag; as it connects so naturally with one important layer of meaning in Paul Auster&#8217;s story. What makes Timbuktu story additionally forceful and interesting is a sophisticated critique of the nuances of (proper) American way of life. Although main character turns against this specific sensibility (pragmatic, capitalist, rationalistic society etc.) he is still very much defined by it. So, why not emphasize American context? The use of American flag on stage in ex-socialist countries probably is different than in another context because it has became an omnipresent icon (like the word America) that now it can symbolize almost everything and nothing. But my problem of setting a gigantic American flag lies in a fact  that  it&#8217;s visually too dominant and aggressive element on an empty stage (where almost nothing happens, except movements of one dog),  thus it will unnecessarily diminish the powerful impact of sliding cage (which as metaphor speaks universally for itself). But also, setting a big ready-made American flag might have too aggressive political connotations (if we enumerate other “anti-American elements”), and can eventually lead to over-simplistic interpretations of what is at its core a truly poetic story.</p>
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		<title>Comment on timbuktu vs. amerika by andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jun 2008 10:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but really a discussion or debate itself indicates not much more then that there is something worth discussing for the people discussing it. it does not signify that the topic under discussion has somekind of uber metaphoric power in its own right, but just that the people discussing it are interested in discussing it... furthermore there is a context here in this very discussion. one which will not be present in the piece. The framework of this discussion was put up as a question on this site. A flag on stage will not work like that (as it is). It will work as a grand statement that&#039;s for sure. By the way, aside from the fact that it is not literally referred to in the Auster text, why not put the EU flag super-giant up on the stage?.... Wouldn&#039;t that cut closer to the bone -- inviting a meaningful discussion, more probably then simply jazzing people into getting pissed off at big bad America (beach boys and/or Kafkaesque dreams of milk and honey notwithstanding) -- which I am suggesting is more likely to be the &#039;edge&#039; in workign with such an obviously inflammatory image in european theater-arts context, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but really a discussion or debate itself indicates not much more then that there is something worth discussing for the people discussing it. it does not signify that the topic under discussion has somekind of uber metaphoric power in its own right, but just that the people discussing it are interested in discussing it&#8230; furthermore there is a context here in this very discussion. one which will not be present in the piece. The framework of this discussion was put up as a question on this site. A flag on stage will not work like that (as it is). It will work as a grand statement that&#8217;s for sure. By the way, aside from the fact that it is not literally referred to in the Auster text, why not put the EU flag super-giant up on the stage?&#8230;. Wouldn&#8217;t that cut closer to the bone &#8212; inviting a meaningful discussion, more probably then simply jazzing people into getting pissed off at big bad America (beach boys and/or Kafkaesque dreams of milk and honey notwithstanding) &#8212; which I am suggesting is more likely to be the &#8216;edge&#8217; in workign with such an obviously inflammatory image in european theater-arts context, no?</p>
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		<title>Comment on timbuktu vs. amerika by jasna</title>
		<link>http://montazstroj.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/ame-ri-ka/#comment-38</link>
		<dc:creator>jasna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as far as I see it (if we leave the poster issue out of it) there are two primal concerns regarding dragging America in or leaving it (him, her?) out of the project... the first is the flag, the second the name. but it all boils down to the same point - what&#039;s America got to do, got to do with it?
if we leave aside the (in)correctness of it all for just a moment, and focus on the, so to say, weight America carries on its back, I think we all agree we then find ourselves with a pretty strong metaphor, symbol, label, brand (never been good with naming things) on our hands. true, it is a metaphor quite used and washed up at the same time. but - the more, the merrier. but, above all, the important thing now is - how this metaphor is used. and yes, jasper johns may have done a critical version of the flag, but he also did a straight one. and yes, outkast may have used b&amp;w only, but madonna didn&#039;t... it all depends on the context, and I think that with this project we&#039;re creating one that will allow a pregnant reflection upon this issues. this debate too, proves it.
plus, the fact that labeling something as politically correct is the most politically correct operation around these day just proves my point right... it&#039;s a neverending story, the snake that bites its own tail, the revolution eating its own children... call it whatever you want and we&#039;ll put an (R) right next to it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as far as I see it (if we leave the poster issue out of it) there are two primal concerns regarding dragging America in or leaving it (him, her?) out of the project&#8230; the first is the flag, the second the name. but it all boils down to the same point &#8211; what&#8217;s America got to do, got to do with it?<br />
if we leave aside the (in)correctness of it all for just a moment, and focus on the, so to say, weight America carries on its back, I think we all agree we then find ourselves with a pretty strong metaphor, symbol, label, brand (never been good with naming things) on our hands. true, it is a metaphor quite used and washed up at the same time. but &#8211; the more, the merrier. but, above all, the important thing now is &#8211; how this metaphor is used. and yes, jasper johns may have done a critical version of the flag, but he also did a straight one. and yes, outkast may have used b&amp;w only, but madonna didn&#8217;t&#8230; it all depends on the context, and I think that with this project we&#8217;re creating one that will allow a pregnant reflection upon this issues. this debate too, proves it.<br />
plus, the fact that labeling something as politically correct is the most politically correct operation around these day just proves my point right&#8230; it&#8217;s a neverending story, the snake that bites its own tail, the revolution eating its own children&#8230; call it whatever you want and we&#8217;ll put an (R) right next to it</p>
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		<title>Comment on timbuktu vs. amerika by harco</title>
		<link>http://montazstroj.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/ame-ri-ka/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>harco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>about the title of the project:

Are we not all a bit America tired?
Are you not afraid that in stead of dealing with more essential questions, everybody will link the play with the coming elections in the States?
Or is it the aim to do so?
Is it possible that this association, especially since the elections are just after the dates of the presentation, kills some much more essential layers that the whole project has.
I am afraid it will associate only with the USA, in stead of raising more uniform and basic questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>about the title of the project:</p>
<p>Are we not all a bit America tired?<br />
Are you not afraid that in stead of dealing with more essential questions, everybody will link the play with the coming elections in the States?<br />
Or is it the aim to do so?<br />
Is it possible that this association, especially since the elections are just after the dates of the presentation, kills some much more essential layers that the whole project has.<br />
I am afraid it will associate only with the USA, in stead of raising more uniform and basic questions.</p>
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		<title>Comment on timbuktu vs. amerika by harco</title>
		<link>http://montazstroj.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/ame-ri-ka/#comment-36</link>
		<dc:creator>harco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some questions about the design of the poster:

I am curious to know what the designer of the had in mind when creating the designs for the  posters.
What message was aimed to transmit by this design?
Why the concept of a photo collage of dogs, homeless people, and paris hilton?
why overlaying the collage with colours?
why those colours?
If I look from a distance I see no more as the title in 3 parts on a coloured background. Except the giant letters there is not anything that appeals to me in such a way, that I want to have a look closer by.
If never the less I am looking at it from closer by. I see a dog, a homeless person asking for money, and I see Paris Hilton with her tiny dog.
I am asking myself: what is the relation between the 3 elements an the story of mr Bones?
The poster displays no more as illustrations of the elements that are used in the project, they do nog give any hint, or add value to what direction this goes.
where the colour fields stand for is a mystery for me
To my opinion a good poster touches the core of the project and displays the essence of what it communicates in two ways: -at first sight and -on a different level when looked at from close by.
I miss both elements in this design.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some questions about the design of the poster:</p>
<p>I am curious to know what the designer of the had in mind when creating the designs for the  posters.<br />
What message was aimed to transmit by this design?<br />
Why the concept of a photo collage of dogs, homeless people, and paris hilton?<br />
why overlaying the collage with colours?<br />
why those colours?<br />
If I look from a distance I see no more as the title in 3 parts on a coloured background. Except the giant letters there is not anything that appeals to me in such a way, that I want to have a look closer by.<br />
If never the less I am looking at it from closer by. I see a dog, a homeless person asking for money, and I see Paris Hilton with her tiny dog.<br />
I am asking myself: what is the relation between the 3 elements an the story of mr Bones?<br />
The poster displays no more as illustrations of the elements that are used in the project, they do nog give any hint, or add value to what direction this goes.<br />
where the colour fields stand for is a mystery for me<br />
To my opinion a good poster touches the core of the project and displays the essence of what it communicates in two ways: -at first sight and -on a different level when looked at from close by.<br />
I miss both elements in this design.</p>
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		<title>Comment on timbuktu vs. amerika by andrew</title>
		<link>http://montazstroj.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/ame-ri-ka/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the quick label of &quot;politically correct&quot; is like a nervous tic -- its  the most politically correct operation around these day. nothing i noted has anything to do with politically correct in fact. but whatevah!  call the thought (about how to aim for actually targeting how things work in this world -- what you here on this very site call &quot;Empire&quot;, for instance) is hardly &quot;politically correct&quot; these days. In fact no one wants to hear about THAT. thats&#039; the challenge. Its far easire to just ram out the old big bad &quot;america&quot; pop-sloganering in a kind of veer away from the state of (again -- what you here are calling) Empire.  No doubt &quot;America&quot; plays a big part in the mess. but it ain&#039;t all coming from that &#039;space&#039; that&#039;s for damn sure. Anyhow, &#039;labeling&#039; it as politically correct certainly avoids such a question. ye ye. welcome to the mainstream. the true politically correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the quick label of &#8220;politically correct&#8221; is like a nervous tic &#8212; its  the most politically correct operation around these day. nothing i noted has anything to do with politically correct in fact. but whatevah!  call the thought (about how to aim for actually targeting how things work in this world &#8212; what you here on this very site call &#8220;Empire&#8221;, for instance) is hardly &#8220;politically correct&#8221; these days. In fact no one wants to hear about THAT. thats&#8217; the challenge. Its far easire to just ram out the old big bad &#8220;america&#8221; pop-sloganering in a kind of veer away from the state of (again &#8212; what you here are calling) Empire.  No doubt &#8220;America&#8221; plays a big part in the mess. but it ain&#8217;t all coming from that &#8217;space&#8217; that&#8217;s for damn sure. Anyhow, &#8216;labeling&#8217; it as politically correct certainly avoids such a question. ye ye. welcome to the mainstream. the true politically correct.</p>
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		<title>Comment on timbuktu vs. amerika by borut</title>
		<link>http://montazstroj.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/ame-ri-ka/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>borut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We all live in Amerika... Coca-Cola, Santa Claus... in the words of Auster&#039;s character Willy G. Christmas:
 
&quot;Even as I breathe my last, I&#039;m choking on it. Useless bits of knowledge, unwanted memories, dandelion fluff; I don&#039;t need them, do I? Not where I&#039;m going I don&#039;t, and yet there they are, marching through my brain like long-lost brethren. That&#039;s American know-how for you. It keeps coming at you, and every minute there&#039;s new junk to push out the old junk. You&#039;d think we would have caught on by now, wised up to the tricks they pull on us, but people can&#039;t get enough of it. They cheer, they wave flags, they hire marching bands. Yes, yes, wondrous things, miraculous things, machines to stagger the imagination, but let us not forget, no, let us not forget that we are not alone in this world. Know-how knows no borders, and when you think of the bounty that pours in from across the seas, it knocks you down a peg or two and puts you in your place. I don&#039;t just mean obvious things like turkeys from Turkey or chili from Chile. I also mean pants from France. I mean pain from Spain and pity from Italy and checks from Czechoslovakia and fleece from Greece. Patriotism has its role, but in the long run it&#039;s a sentiment best kept under wraps. Yes, we Yanks have given the world the zipper and the Zippo, not to speak of zip-a-dee doo-dah and Zeppo Marx, but we&#039;re also responsible for the H-bomb and the hula hoop. It all balances out in the end, doesn&#039;t it? Just when you think you&#039;re top gun, you wind up &#039;as bottom dog. And I don&#039;t mean you, Mr. Bones. Dog as metaphor, if you catch my drift, dog as emblem of the downtrodden, and you&#039;re no trope, my boy, you&#039;re as real as they come.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We all live in Amerika&#8230; Coca-Cola, Santa Claus&#8230; in the words of Auster&#8217;s character Willy G. Christmas:</p>
<p>&#8220;Even as I breathe my last, I&#8217;m choking on it. Useless bits of knowledge, unwanted memories, dandelion fluff; I don&#8217;t need them, do I? Not where I&#8217;m going I don&#8217;t, and yet there they are, marching through my brain like long-lost brethren. That&#8217;s American know-how for you. It keeps coming at you, and every minute there&#8217;s new junk to push out the old junk. You&#8217;d think we would have caught on by now, wised up to the tricks they pull on us, but people can&#8217;t get enough of it. They cheer, they wave flags, they hire marching bands. Yes, yes, wondrous things, miraculous things, machines to stagger the imagination, but let us not forget, no, let us not forget that we are not alone in this world. Know-how knows no borders, and when you think of the bounty that pours in from across the seas, it knocks you down a peg or two and puts you in your place. I don&#8217;t just mean obvious things like turkeys from Turkey or chili from Chile. I also mean pants from France. I mean pain from Spain and pity from Italy and checks from Czechoslovakia and fleece from Greece. Patriotism has its role, but in the long run it&#8217;s a sentiment best kept under wraps. Yes, we Yanks have given the world the zipper and the Zippo, not to speak of zip-a-dee doo-dah and Zeppo Marx, but we&#8217;re also responsible for the H-bomb and the hula hoop. It all balances out in the end, doesn&#8217;t it? Just when you think you&#8217;re top gun, you wind up &#8216;as bottom dog. And I don&#8217;t mean you, Mr. Bones. Dog as metaphor, if you catch my drift, dog as emblem of the downtrodden, and you&#8217;re no trope, my boy, you&#8217;re as real as they come.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on timbuktu vs. amerika by jasna</title>
		<link>http://montazstroj.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/ame-ri-ka/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>jasna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the politically correct intro:) and you know what... all of this makes me even more reassured that we should go all the way down with this we-all-live-in-America thing, be it politically incorrect, over the top and completely untruthful. long live labeling!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the politically correct intro:) and you know what&#8230; all of this makes me even more reassured that we should go all the way down with this we-all-live-in-America thing, be it politically incorrect, over the top and completely untruthful. long live labeling!</p>
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		<title>Comment on timbuktu vs. amerika by andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 13:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not having much of a sense in a &#039;personal&#039; way for how the terms resonate in the location where the piece will be performed, I feel a bit out-of-place in commenting. So, with that being said, I will just note that the use of a giant american flag in american contexts signifies extreme levels of patriotism. In other words, its not all that common to see. And when it does appear, again, it means a virtually hyper-nationalistic sensibility. Furthermore, in general my sense is that the use of the american flag, just as it is (and not altered, i.e. as Outkast on the album cover Stankonia transforms the colors to just black and white, or how Jasper Johns made the entire field of colors just white, in one critical painting) is an icon which largely enflames a somewhat simplistic idea of &quot;Empire&quot; or superstructure.  That is I am not sure it moves any cultural dialogue forward, as such... But rather works much more closely to what used to be called a &quot;reactionary&quot; sensibility. It fails to recognize that the corporate order and the state structures of the &quot;Global&quot; regime structure are hardly &#039;dominated&#039; or exclusively controlled, etc. by americans or &quot;american society&quot; (whatever that may be!) or american &quot;government&quot;. So, misinformation or obcurantism is developed from this kind of &#039;anti-america&#039; sensationalism. Today, the big corporations and the systems which &#039;legalize&#039; the very close relationship between &#039;keeping markets open&#039; and hegemonic domination (including the active repression of dissent, etc.) are hardly based in any one country. It is in fact a world dominated by the &quot;global north&quot;. That is multinationals, and companies which are owned by stockholders -- these people are from many regions in the north of the world, specifically, Europe and North America largely. So, if an accuracy were to be aimed for it would be some kind of EU-USA merger as the great controller of the world, and not at ALL just the U.S. I think some level of truthfulness is important.. no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not having much of a sense in a &#8216;personal&#8217; way for how the terms resonate in the location where the piece will be performed, I feel a bit out-of-place in commenting. So, with that being said, I will just note that the use of a giant american flag in american contexts signifies extreme levels of patriotism. In other words, its not all that common to see. And when it does appear, again, it means a virtually hyper-nationalistic sensibility. Furthermore, in general my sense is that the use of the american flag, just as it is (and not altered, i.e. as Outkast on the album cover Stankonia transforms the colors to just black and white, or how Jasper Johns made the entire field of colors just white, in one critical painting) is an icon which largely enflames a somewhat simplistic idea of &#8220;Empire&#8221; or superstructure.  That is I am not sure it moves any cultural dialogue forward, as such&#8230; But rather works much more closely to what used to be called a &#8220;reactionary&#8221; sensibility. It fails to recognize that the corporate order and the state structures of the &#8220;Global&#8221; regime structure are hardly &#8216;dominated&#8217; or exclusively controlled, etc. by americans or &#8220;american society&#8221; (whatever that may be!) or american &#8220;government&#8221;. So, misinformation or obcurantism is developed from this kind of &#8216;anti-america&#8217; sensationalism. Today, the big corporations and the systems which &#8216;legalize&#8217; the very close relationship between &#8216;keeping markets open&#8217; and hegemonic domination (including the active repression of dissent, etc.) are hardly based in any one country. It is in fact a world dominated by the &#8220;global north&#8221;. That is multinationals, and companies which are owned by stockholders &#8212; these people are from many regions in the north of the world, specifically, Europe and North America largely. So, if an accuracy were to be aimed for it would be some kind of EU-USA merger as the great controller of the world, and not at ALL just the U.S. I think some level of truthfulness is important.. no?</p>
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		<title>Comment on mr bones vs. now i wanna be your dog by vault101</title>
		<link>http://montazstroj.wordpress.com/2008/05/31/now-i-wanna-be-your-dog/#comment-20</link>
		<dc:creator>vault101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:27:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Legenda je. Tu je i taj period kada se rezao ziletom i poljevao voskom!
Lud je totalno!</description>
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Lud je totalno!</p>
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